So I’m at work, waiting for things to happen, and I decided to work a little on my anatomy knowledge. No, I didn’t start wankin, my friend G would immediately point this out to me, that if I said I were working on my anatomy, he would assume the worst, and that I had started pulling my pud.
No, what I got into was the skeletal system, the things I need to know when I finally get into x-ray school. I started opening files I have on the computer to help me with this, and I ran across something interesting.
I keep stuff together on the computer, or try to anyway, to have some semblance of organization, which never works as I’d like. I was looking for something as I said, and came across an e-book that I had saved once upon a time called The Two Republics. A book about
I started browsing, and came across some interesting things in this book. For instance, in it the author talks about a senate hearing from the early 1800s that addresses public works on Sundays, or specifically the sabbath. I did a cursory search on the Internet, and though I could find no official transcripts, I found the transcript in another source. It appears, from what I could gather reading through the hearing notes once, that Jewish people wanted public works off on Saturday as well as Sunday, because that is when some of them observe the sabbath. There is a long discussion about legislating purely on religious grounds. This is just one aspect of the book, and the author includes this hearing as his evidence for some of the claims he makes.
Of course all this is just a prelude for reprinting the excerpt below, but not before I express myself a little. Some would argue that it should be ok for governments to issue laws strictly based on theological concepts. Going back to the Sunday thing, some think that there is no harm enacting legislation for rest on Sunday. It is our custom, after all, so what harm could it do? They address these arguments in the transcripts that follow, but they have to be somewhat formal and professional, whereas I do not. One of the nice things about the ‘blogging’ thing, is that you don’t have to be politically correct, and if someone disagrees, they don’t have to read. Then of course there is the fact that I don’t put this shit here for others to read, it’s a sort of sketch pad for me. Anyway, I was just about to get into the meat of that argument they, persons with religious zeal, would use to bend others to their will. That is it in a nutshell though, it is just another way in which religious zealots attempt to force their way on others. As a custom, Sunday is a day of rest for people, and legislation allowing for it is perfectly ok. Put this way it doesn’t give the underlying religious background the power of law. Everyone recognizes the benefits of a day off from the labors of one’s livelihood, a day for doing as they choose. If some prefer to use time they get for religious responsibilities, then that is fine, and legislation that says it’s ok, if such is needed, is perfectly ok. Put this way it is not a mandate. We have laws to preserve the freedom for doing as we choose, within reasonable limits, with our free time, but not for mandating what is to be done during that free time. This is fundamental to our constitution, because it was these very reasons, religious mandates and others, for the revolution and winning independence.
Could we reasonably legislate based on religious doctrine? Yes we could, but the problem is the operative word there, ‘reasonably’. People all too often get themselves worked up in their zest for their religious beliefs, and this tends to leave such a person wanting for rational thinking, leaving their reason by the wayside. There is that, and the fact that theology is severely lacking in the ‘reasonableness’ department. (is that a word?) Rational and logical thinking is always at odds with theological concepts, and is not a factor when people start pushing their ideas onto others because the two cannot cohabitate the same mind.
Anyway, on to the excerpt of the book, and below that the transcript in its entirety as I found it on the Internet…….
"The Jewish government was a theocracy, which enforced religious observances; and though the committee would hope that no portion of the citizens of our country would willingly introduce a system of religious coercion in our civil institutions, the example of other nations should admonish us to watch carefully against its earliest indication, . . . Among all the religious persecutions with which almost every page of modern history is stained, no victim ever suffered but for the violation of what government denominated the law of God. To prevent a similar train of evils in this country, the Constitution has wisely withheld from our government the power of defining the divine law. It is a right reserved to each citizen; and while he respects the rights of others, he cannot be held amenable to any human tribunal for his conclusions.
"Extensive religious combinations to effect a political object, are, in the opinion of the committee, always dangerous. This first effort of the kind calls for the establishment of a principle, which, in the opinion of the committee, would lay the foundation for dangerous innovations upon the spirit of the Constitution, and upon the religious rights of the citizens. If admitted, it may be justly apprehended that the future measures of the government will be strongly marked, if not eventually controlled, by the same influence. All religious despotism commences by combination and influence, and when that influence begins to operate upon the political institutions of a country, the civil power soon bends under it; and the catastrophe of other nations furnishes an awful warning of the consequence."
The following report was made in the Senate of the United States, by a committee, of which Richard M. Johnson was chairman, and to whom was referred the several petitions on the subject of prohibiting the transportation of Mails on the Sabbath, reported in Senate, January, 1829:
"That some respite is required from the ordinary vocations of life, is an established principle, sanctioned by the usages of all nations, whether Christian or pagan. One day in seven has been determined upon as the proportion of time; and in conformity with the wishes of a great majority of citizens of this country, the first day of the week, commonly called Sunday, has been set apart to that object. The principle has received the sanction of the national legislature, so far as to admit a suspension of all public business on this day, except in cases of absolute necessity or of great public utility. This principle the committee would not wish to disturb. If kept within its legitimate sphere of action, no injury can result from its observance. It should, however, be kept in mind, that the proper object of government is, to protect all persons in the enjoyment of their religious, as well as civil rights; and not to determine for any, whether they shall esteem one day above another, or esteem all days alike holy. [555]
"We are aware, that a variety of sentiment exists among the good people of this nation, on the subject of the Sabbath day; and our government is designed for the protection of one as much as for another. The Jews, who in this country are as free as Christians, and entitled to the same protection from the laws, derive their obligation to keep the Sabbath day from the fourth commandment of their decalogue, and in conformity with that injunction, pay religious homage to the seventh day of the week, which we call Saturday. One denomination of Christians among us, justly celebrated for their piety, and certainly as good citizens as any other class, agree with the Jews in the moral obligation of the Sabbath, and observe the same day. There are also many Christians among us, who derive not their obligation to observe the Sabbath from the decalogue, but regard the Jewish Sabbath as abrogated. From the example of the apostles of Christ, they have chosen the first day of the week, instead of that day set apart in the decalogue, for their religious devotions. These have generally regarded the observance of the day as a devotional exercise, and would not more readily enforce it upon others than they would enforce secret prayer or devout meditations. Urging the fact, that neither their Lord nor his disciples, though often censured by their accusers for the violation of the Sabbath, ever enjoined its observance, they regard it as a subject on which every person should be fully persuaded in his own mind, and not coerce others to act upon his persuasion. Many Christians again differ from these, professing to derive their obligation to observe the Sabbath from the fourth commandment of the Jewish decalogue, and bring the example of the apostles, who appear to have held their public meetings for worship on the first day of the week, as authority for so far changing the decalogue as to substitute that day for the seventh. The Jewish government was a theocracy, which enforced religious observances; and though the committee would hope that no portion of the citizens of our country could willingly introduce a system of religious coercion in our civil institutions, the example of other nations should admonish us to watch carefully against its earliest indications.
"With these different religious views the committee are of opinion that Congress cannot interfere. It is not the legitimate province of the legislature to determine what religion is true or what false. Our government is a civil, and not a religious institution. Our Constitution recognizes in every person the right to choose his own religion, and to enjoy it freely, without molestation. Whatever may be the religious sentiments of citizens, and however variant, they are alike entitled to protection from the government, so long as they do not invade the rights of others. [556]
"The transportation of the mail on the first day of the week, it is believed, does not interfere with the rights of conscience. The petitioners for its discontinuance appear to be actuated from a religious zeal which may be commendable if confined to its proper sphere, but they assume a position better suited to an ecclesiastical than to a civil institution. They appear, in many instances, to lay it down as an axiom, that the practice is a violation of the law of God. Should Congress, in their legislative capacity, adopt the sentiment, it would establish the principle that the legislature is the proper tribunal to determine what are the laws of God. It would involve a legislative decision in a religious controversy, and on a point on which good citizens may honestly differ in opinion without disturbing the peace of society or endangering its liberties. If this principle is once introduced, it will be impossible to define its bounds. Among all the religious persecutions with which almost every page of modern history is stained, no victim ever suffered, but for the violation of what government denominated the law of God. To prevent a similar train of evils in this country, the constitution has wisely withheld from our government the power of defining the Divine Law. It is a right reserved to each citizen, and while he respects the equal rights of others, he cannot be held amenable to any human tribunal for his conclusions.
"Extensive religious combinations to effect a political object are, in the opinion of the committee, always dangerous. This first effort of the kind calls for the establishment of a principle, which, in the opinion of the committee, would lay the foundation for dangerous innovations upon the spirit of the constitution, and upon the religious rights of the citizens; if admitted, it may be justly apprehended, that the future measures of government will be strongly marked, if not eventually controlled by the same influence. All religious despotism commences by combination and influence; and when that influence begins to operate upon the political institutions of the country, the civil power soon bends under it, and the catastrophe of other nations furnishes an awful warning of the consequence.
"Under the present regulations of the post-office department, the rights of conscience are not invaded. Every agent enters voluntarily, and it is presumed conscientiously, into the discharge of his duties, without intermeddling with the conscience of another. Post-offices are so regulated, as that but a small proportion of the first day of the week is required to be occupied in official business. In the transportation of the mail on that day, no one agent is employed many hours. Religious persons enter into the business without violating their own consciences, or imposing any restraints upon others. Passengers in the mail stages are free to rest during the first day of the week, or to [557] pursue their journeys at their own pleasure.--While the mail is transported on Saturday, the Jew and the Sabbatarian may abstain from any agency in carrying it, on conscientious scruples. While it is transported on the first day of the week, another class may abstain, from the same religious scruples. The obligation of government is the same to both of these classes--and the committee can discover no principle on which the claims of one should be more respected than those of the other, unless it should be admitted that the consciences of the minority are less sacred than those of the majority.
"It is the opinion of the committee, that the subject should be regarded simply as a question of expediency, irrespective of its religious bearing. In this light, it has hitherto been considered. Congress have never legislated upon the discretion of the postmaster general, under the repeated refusals of Congress to discontinue the Sabbath mails. His knowledge and judgment in all the concerns of that department will not be questioned. His intense labors and assiduity have resulted in the highest improvement of every branch of his department. It is practised only on the great leading mail routes, and such others as are necessary to maintain their connections. To prevent this, would, in the opinion of the committee, be productive of immense injury, both in its commercial, political, and in its moral bearings.
"The various departments of government require, frequently in peace, always in war, the speediest intercourse with the remotest parts of the country--and one important object of the mail establishment is, to furnish the greatest and most economical facilities for such intercourse. The delay of the mails one day in seven would require the employment of special expresses,. at great expense, and sometimes with great uncertainty.
"The commercial, manufacturing, and agricultural interests of our country are so intimately connected, as to require a constant and most expeditious correspondence betwixt all our seaports, and betwixt them and the most interior settlements. The delay of the mails during the Sunday would give occasion to the employing of private expresses to such an amount, that probably ten riders would be employed where one mail stage is now running on that day--thus diverting the revenue of that department into another channel, and sinking the establishment into a state of pusillanimity incompatible with the dignity of the government of which it is a department.
"Passengers in the mail stages, if the mails are not permitted to proceed on Sunday, will be expected to spend that day at a tavern upon the road, generally under circumstances not friendly to devotion, and at an expense which many are but poorly able to encounter. [558] To obviate these difficulties, many will employ extra carriages for their conveyance, and become the bearers of correspondence, as more expeditious than the mail. The stage proprietors will themselves often furnish the travelers with those means of conveyance--so that the effect will ultimately be only to stop the mail, while the vehicle which conveys it will continue, and its passengers become the special messengers for conveying a considerable proportion of what would otherwise constitute the contents of the mail.
"Nor can the committee discover where the system could consistently end. If the observance of a holiday becomes incorporated in our institutions, shall we not forbid the movement of an army--prohibit an assault in time of war--and lay an injunction upon our naval officers to lie in the wind while upon the ocean on that day? Consistency would seem to require it. Nor is it certain that we should stop here. If the principle is once established, that religion, or religious observances shall be interwoven with our legislative acts, we must pursue it to its ultimatum. We shall, if consistent, provide for the erection of edifices for the worship of our Creator, and for the support of Christian ministers, if we believe such measures will promote the interests of Christianity. It is the settled conviction of the committee, that the only method of avoiding these consequences, with their attendant train of evils, is to adhere strictly to the spirit of the constitution, which regards the general government in no other light than that of a civil institution, wholly destitute of religious authority.
"What other nations call religious toleration, we call religious rights. They are not exercised in virtue of governmental indulgence, but as rights, of which government cannot deprive any portion of citizens, however small. Despotic power may invade those rights, but justice still confirms them. Let the national legislature once perform an act which involves the decision of a religious controversy, and it will have passed its legitimate bounds. The precedent will then be established, and the foundation laid for that usurpation of the Divine prerogative in this country which has been the desolating scourge of the fairest portions of the world. Our constitution recognizes no other power than that of persuasion for enforcing religious observances. Let the professors of Christianity recommend their religion by deeds of benevolence--by Christian meekness, by lives of temperance and holiness. Let them combine their efforts to instruct the ignorant--to relieve the widow and the orphan--to promulgate to the world the gospel of their Saviour, recommending its precepts by their habitual example: government will find its legitimate object in protecting them. It cannot oppose them, and they will not need its aid. Their moral influence will their do infinitely more to advance [559] the true interests of religion than any measure which they may call on Congress to enact.
"The petitioners do not complain of any infringement upon their own rights. They enjoy all that Christians ought to ask at the hand of any government--protection from all molestation in the exercise of their religious sentiments.
"Resolved, That the committee be discharged from the further consideration of the subject."
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